tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11933170.post114230730644232570..comments2009-05-19T00:37:43.025-05:00Comments on Simul Iustus Et Peccator: Questioning Organizations' Movement-LabelingJayhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13082289864160434959noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11933170.post-1145720534240375442006-04-22T10:42:00.000-05:002006-04-22T10:42:00.000-05:00i can't say that I identify as intersex- although ...i can't say that I identify as intersex- although based on medical tests etc. I certainly could easily make the claim.<BR/><BR/>AS far as invisible disabilities I think the challenge often comes from as much within the disability community as outside of it. I have NLD (for more info check out: http://www.nlda.org/, http://www.nldline.com/, http://www.nldontheweb.org/)<BR/>ADHD and hearing loss inAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11933170.post-1142616382724387792006-03-17T11:26:00.000-06:002006-03-17T11:26:00.000-06:00You can help by spreading the word about women suc...You can help by spreading the word about women such as Alice Dreger who, in my opinion, has co-opted intersex issues for her own agenda, not ours.<BR/><BR/>It is very humiliating that people who are not intersex and who do not listen to most of us speak about us while erasing our identity.<BR/><BR/>Many of us have tried to get Alice Dreger to understand how important gender issues are and she OII: http://www.intersexualite.org/https://www.blogger.com/profile/00154389642578705000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11933170.post-1142607692286929342006-03-17T09:01:00.000-06:002006-03-17T09:01:00.000-06:00Thanks for your thoughtful responses.You asked abo...Thanks for your thoughtful responses.<BR/><BR/>You asked about my profession- My professional training is as a Master of Divinty and Master of Social Work. I have worked in both, and am currently seeking my first job after completing all the school. My social work experiences/research/practice interests have included all lot of work in the Disability Rights movement, work within GLBTTQQI+ Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13082289864160434959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11933170.post-1142373710906843652006-03-14T16:01:00.000-06:002006-03-14T16:01:00.000-06:00Hi Jay,I am interested in your profession. Do you...Hi Jay,<BR/><BR/>I am interested in your profession. Do you mind mentioning that? You are very knowledgeable in this area. <BR/><BR/>As far as the dilemma of including people who are "not" intersex, in OII, they are intergender. We have a spokesperson both for English speakers and French speakers for intergender issues, one of which is intersex and the other not. We use intgender as the OII: http://www.intersexualite.org/https://www.blogger.com/profile/00154389642578705000noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11933170.post-1142371251346284422006-03-14T15:20:00.000-06:002006-03-14T15:20:00.000-06:00Thanks for your comments.I wonder too about why in...Thanks for your comments.<BR/><BR/>I wonder too about why intersex is a protected category of identity. I have taught it as such, from a variety of sources of intersex people. In the interest of not erasing, I've been taught it best to state as broad a definition of intersex as possible, and to let people self-define based on that. But there is an element of erasing others in that, and I'm not Jayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13082289864160434959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11933170.post-1142366081080887262006-03-14T13:54:00.000-06:002006-03-14T13:54:00.000-06:00I do agree in many ways with this. You have analy...I do agree in many ways with this. You have analyzed the dilemma quite well. I would point out however that if a person who is intersex can identify as woman or a man (which ISNA prefers), why is it that a person who is male or female cannot identify as intersex. I personally have no interest in policing a sex category which is not a discreet one. Since none of the sex categories can be OII: http://www.intersexualite.org/https://www.blogger.com/profile/00154389642578705000noreply@blogger.com